# Difference between mpas-bundle and spack-stack

**URL:** <https://forums.jcsda.org/t/difference-between-mpas-bundle-and-spack-stack/632>\
**Category:** JEDI\
**Created:** [October 30, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.jcsda.org/t/difference-between-mpas-bundle-and-spack-stack/632 "2024-10-30T00:47:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![bigveech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@bigveech](https://forums.jcsda.org/u/bigveech)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.jcsda.org/t/difference-between-mpas-bundle-and-spack-stack/632/1 "2024-10-30T00:47:12Z")

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Hello everyone,  
I’m attempting to do some data assimilation with using JEDI MPAS.

I started by looking at this repo GitHub `mpas-jedi` which suggested that I use [mpas-bundle](https://github.com/JCSDA/mpas-bundle). After attempting to build, I came across another repo [spack-stack](https://github.com/JCSDA/spack-stack) which also looks like it bundles MPAS.

Which of these should I focus on building?

Also, I’ve been building `mpas-bundle` version 3.0.1. Is that the most widely used version? It seems like the last “release” was 1.0.0.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![steven.vahl](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.jcsda.org/steven.vahl/32/223_2.png) [@steven.vahl](https://forums.jcsda.org/u/steven.vahl)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.jcsda.org/t/difference-between-mpas-bundle-and-spack-stack/632/2 "2024-10-30T14:56:42Z")

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spack-stack and mpas-bundle are not really building the same thing. spack-stack builds and creates modules for all the prerequisite packages that are required in order to build all the JEDI repositories. If you are working on an HPC, there is a good chance that spack-stack is already installed on it. See the “Preconfigured Sites” list here: [Table of contents — spack-stack develop documentation](https://spack-stack.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html)

If you are working on a PC, then you need to build spack-stack locally first, following the instructions in the “Generating new site configs” section of the above link.  
This is a time-consuming process, and the instructions must be followed carefully. If you have access to an HPC, it might be simpler to use that with the pre-installed spack-stack.

Once you have your spack-stack environment in place, you are ready to build a JEDI bundle. The JCSDA supports a bundle called jedi-bundle. You can find instructions on how to build it here:  
[https://jointcenterforsatellitedataassimilation-jedi-docs.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/using/building\_and\_running/building\_jedi.html](https://jointcenterforsatellitedataassimilation-jedi-docs.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/using/building_and_running/building_jedi.html)  
jedi-bundle builds everything needed by mpas-jedi, fv3-jedi, and soca, and so builds everything you need, but also builds things you do not need if you’re just working with mpas-jedi.

Which brings us to mpas-bundle. mpas-bundle serves the same purpose as jedi-bundle, but leaves out the JEDI repositories that are not needed for building and running mpas-jedi. So the build might be a little faster and lighter. mpas-bundle is not supported by the JCSDA, and is (or is not) maintained by NCAR/MMM. I don’t know its current maintenance status.

Depending on your level of CMAKE expertise, you can modify the main CMakeLists.txt file in jedi-bundle to comment-out the repositories that are not needed by mpas-jedi. Or you can just build the whole thing if you don’t mind building extra repositories.

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**Author:** ![Astrogirlanajli](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/forums.jcsda.org/astrogirlanajli/32/273_2.png) [@Astrogirlanajli](https://forums.jcsda.org/u/Astrogirlanajli)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2026, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.jcsda.org/t/difference-between-mpas-bundle-and-spack-stack/632/3 "2026-02-24T09:09:44Z")

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Hi,

I have a follow-up question. After successfully building the jedi-bundle (here, in my case, on Ubuntu), how do I run or access MPAS-JEDI?

- Thank you.
